I have been reading this blog for several months and every day I think ‘holy crap these girls are dumb’ but this- this has taken their stupidity to a whole new level- something I never thought possible until today.
I love these girls .. even though I don’t know them .. if i ever see them i will know because it will be the girls who act blond :)… waittttt!?! that’d be a lot
Oh wowwww. XD well maybe they really are smart, just slow…. lol i’m in all advanced classes about to begin early college with a 3.75 GPA and still get made fun of for being so ditzy. :] like seriously, i ran into the same glass door 3 times last week and apologized to it every time. And my hair is light brown!
Hey Charlie – I realize that they are very loud and you can hear them in YOUR space, but unless you’ve actually gone to their apartment and said “Hey, I’m the guy below you, I can hear every word said in your apartment, and I’m capitalizing on your stupidity through social media,” then I think you are invading THEIR privacy.
You tend to soften your criticisms of these women by expressing some fondness for them, but if they truly are oblivious to the fact that you’re listening in (maybe you’re even sitting in your sink RIGHT NOW) and you haven’t even given them the courtesy of a face-to-face conversation/warning (complaints to the landlord count for nothing), then DGAM is nothing else but sneaky, mean-spirited, and self-serving.
As clever as your posts are, hilarity and faux fondness don’t excuse what you’re doing. The fact that so many of your ecstatic readers are women, thrilled to mock and deride other women who are being imposed upon, is deeply disturbing.
No, what Charlie needs to do is go to these two, tell them that he can hear every single word of their private conversations and that it bothers him (or at least it did). This clear disclosure of the problem may do absolutely nothing to change their behaviour, but until they know the severity of the problem, they can hardly be expected to take measure to prevent the disturbance.
Unless this website generates some serious profit, it’s not capitalizing on anything. there must be capital (read: wealth, valuable assets, economic influence/power) to capitalize… I see no indication that serious assets are being acquired from the creation of this site.
It seems you think it’s not feminist for intelligent, informed women to laugh at and/or deride women who refuse to become informed or act intelligent, especially right now, when information is constantly and easily accessible, because they are too caught up with materialism and following social guidelines that say only men can truly understand politics, current events, health, literature etc. I don’t think it’s very feminist to “pretend I’m dumb cause guys think it’s cute” (see June 7).
The public following and media attention that Charlie gains from this project build his profile as a comedian, which is an asset that he can then (of course) use to generate wealth.
Interesting that you bring up feminism… Are only “intelligent, informed women” entitled to respect and the ability to live their lives as they see fit? One of the core principles of feminism is that all women, including these women (or “girls”, as they are almost universally referred to on this site, which is a demotion in terms of gender status), should have the freedom conduct themselves as they choose. If designer purses and fucking are their ways to express that freedom, then neither you nor anybody else has any right to criticize them for it.
Another strong theme in feminism is that women (and men) should help other women to attain their goals, rather than tearing them down. Women don’t need men to stand up and tell them how stupid they are when there are plenty of women (like you) who are happy to do it. As we all know, being told how stupid we are does wonders for self-esteem and personal development. So if these two aren’t achieving to some standard level out there, you share a little tiny piece of that blame.
For myself, I’m grateful that we live in a society where we (men and women) are allowed to have our own ditzy moments, and where people like you don’t decide who is worthy of respect based on educational attainment.
Not that I didn’t find this hilarious, but shouldn’t men have the freedom to express their selves just as equally as women? Charlie’s form of expressing himself is venting his frusterations, over the internet, to people who most of the time will relate and understand.
Absolutely Hannah, and I think that this approach is a brilliant way to get back at inconsiderate neighbours, if they in fact knew that they were being inconsiderate.
Putting gender aside, how would you feel if you were being internationally lambasted for something that you didn’t even know that you were doing? And is it really fair to bitch about something that you haven’t made a serious or direct attempt to address?
The problem with Angela’s argument is that an invasion of privacy is not a punishable offence. Furhtermore, it has never been stated that he has NOT previously told the girls about the disturbance that they are causing. So you do not have the right to attack this site because you do not know the entire story. You are jumping to conclusions which is not a good thing to base an argument on. If you do not want to be part of this site’s following then i recommend you refrain from logging on. If you want to make baseless accusations, then form your own blog. But do be sure not to “invade” anyone’s privacy. You may be attacked with your own statements. :)
In reply to Elsie, I’ve read Charlie’s entire blog and interviews related to this blog, and to my knowledge, he has never met the GAM face-to-face (has there been any developments there, Charlie?). I think I read somewhere that he DID complain to the landlord, but at present it appears that he hasn’t taken any personal step to resolve the problem (although clearly the anonymous presentation of a Haylie Duff pillow says “you’re disturbing my peace”). So I have about as much information as you do, which is exactly the amount of information that Charlie has given to any of us (i.e., we see these girls through his lens).
As for invasion of privacy not being a punishable offense, it certainly IS (in some forms), but in this case, the argument is not legal, it’s ethical. Try to keep up.
Now that I think about the legal aspects, however, there could be problems in the future for Charlie. He hasn’t released their names, but he has released his own, along with his city of residence and his “job”. If anybody finds out where Charlie lives, then obviously you know where the GAM live and it becomes very easy to connect their names with their private conversation published through this blog without their consent (but clearly linked to them). I could see that getting ugly.
One has to assume sound is traveling both ways. If I can hear my neighbour’s TV, I have to assume they can hear mine. If they are so stupid that they can’t make that basic step (not even leap) of logic, screw em.
I feel bad for responding to this heated conversation instead of applauding Charlie’s wit while also feeling bad for him, but…
Angela, I’m not gonna tell you that “if you don’t like it like don’t read it!!” because that’s a very weak argument. But where “ethics” are concerned…First of all, it’s impossible to establish a sense of “right” and “wrong” that everyone agrees with. Upon the subject of releasing their names…well, I agree with the others who said that since he didn’t, it’s no big deal.
Anyway, people make fun of other people online all the time. Their bosses, their neighbours, their friends, themselves…even on public TV, this happens. If you’re disgusted by other women–or men–laughing at the girls mentioned in the posts, well…to sound blunt, you just have to deal with it; that’s how the citizens of Earth seem to operate.
Also, since you don’t know all the facts, you can’t immediately call Charlie out on not confronting his neighbours. I’m not saying that he definitely did or didn’t, but for the sake of the argument…say he did complain, and it didn’t work, and now he’s just venting. Even if he didn’t, it’s a moot point. Freedom of speech and all that, and since he’s not technically invading their privacy, ethical standards might not be enough to make him talk to them. I’m not trying to speak for him–sorry if it seems like that.
However, I respect your argument completely, especially how you’ve remained mostly calm and have been arguing intelligently (I’m not one to judge on ‘intelligent arguments’ as you can probably tell, but colour me impressed nonetheless). I actually agree with some of what you’re saying. But since there’s no real reason for Charlie to discontinue posting other than running the risk of making his neighbours’ feelings getting hurt…well, you don’t have me convinced.
I know you probably’ve been getting a lot of replies, so I’m sorry if I sounded rude. I’ll get off my soapbox now.
Not that I didn’t find this hilarious, but shouldn’t men have the freedom to express their selves just as equally as women? Charlie’s form of expressing himself is venting his frusterations, over the internet, to people who most of the time will relate and understand.
wow this seems to be a heated debate! ahahaha anyways, thanks charlie for making my day! I am currently in the process of writing an 8 page term paper and this just gave me a great laugh to keep me going. . . thanks your blog is awesome!
Why are you lecturing a guy over the internet that you have never met? If he hears every word they say, and he tells them this things could get nasty for him. And there is nothing wrong if he doesn’t release their names. I come on to this site for a laugh, both with Charlies comments and everyone elses. the last thing I want to see is an ethics argument on this site, that I normally get laughs from. everone has ditzy moments, some they even post online. Learn how to laugh a little, please
I’m just saying that for you to even have an opinion of this, you had to have read it first. So why are you reading it if you are just going to be a jerk to everyone. It’s dumb. And you are rude. To everyone.
seriously, if you have a problem with it you dont have to read it. and to the proactivity comment, there really isnt anything YOU can be doing about it. its charlie’s decision whether he tells them or not, so why exactly are we fighting about it?
There’s no fight here, just a conversation. And there IS something that I can do about it, which is voice my dissent, rather than sitting back with the rest and enjoying the admittedly huge entertainment value of this skeazy venture.
As for Charlie making the decisions here, that’s unfortunately true (if I were living above him, I wouldn’t want him making decisions for ME, like deciding which of my private commentaries to air for the world), but you will notice that he does respond to his follower’s comments. So there is something YOU can do too, Lizzie.
Sigh… no Marie, I’m trying to get YOUR attention. But if a conversation about ethics, privacy, and how you should treat your neighbors makes you uncomfortable, then by all means use humor to deflect that discomfort.
I wonder how seriously they take surgery. Do they seem like do-it-yourselfers? …cause this could get extremely entertaining, but it would be wise to put 911 on speed dial while listening to that disaster.
Actually, I know what they said sounds stupid, but when I was having a constant migraine for months, non-stop, it was because I needed my tonsils and adenoids out.
Angela, calm down, like, legit. Charlie can’t go around his apartment wearing ear plugs, the girls are loud, he can’t help but hear them. and he created this blog for amusement purposes. He’s witty, and quite the epic win, and we love him and his blogs about the GAM. If you don’t like Charlies blog, what are you doing on it anyway? gtfo and there’s no problem! :)
You guys need to stop bitching, if you don’t like what Charlie’s doing then don’t come to this site; personally if I were these girls I would feel honored to have a website dedicated to all the shit shit I say.
I just fail to see where this is ethically wrong. If they didn’t want their everyday musings to be made fun of, maybe for once they would think before they spoke. Angela- really?! Fucking really?! Just because you clearly have no sense of humor doesn’t mean you must play the role of the consumate wet blanket. Judging (because that’s what we all do… we judge inherently so don’t bitch if we judge some biddies for having sex with half of the city)from the passion with which you opine on this subject you must have made an ass out of yourself on more blogs than this, so do us all a favor and shove off.
Nah… riling idiots like you is a rewarding hobby. The GAM don’t think before they speak because they are in a private space speaking with a trusted person. You should also consider that Charlie edits these convos to maximize the hilarity. You don’t think before you post because… you’re dumb???
Don’t you all get it?? She’s a troll. A motherf*cking troll who is doing so well on pissing people off on here that she (or possibly he cause for all we know it’s a dude) has probably gotten off on this particular argument 3 or 4 times.
ding ding ding! we have a winner johnny! Honestly the fact that anyone responded at all to “Angela” is really quite a shock to me. Troll’s are usually really easy to spot, and though there are quite a few admitted blog newbs, everyone has to know at least one person who like to rag on everyone just because they can. The satisfaction of knowing they got under someone’s skin is just too much to resist, and as such they spawn everywhere. I recommend(to everyone) that if you stumble across another comment along the same line as “Angela’s” to just deny them the orgasm and ignore them.
…Not all trolls just wanna get under peoples’ skin. I mean, some do, but some just want to prove a point that’s different from the majority opinion.
For example, if I answered an online question of “do you like Twilight” and said no and explained why, I’d be called a troll. Bleargh. Didn’t mean to contaminate the site with that word. My b.
Also…replying to trolls=argument=adrenaline=funfunfun.
I have been reading this blog for several months and every day I think ‘holy crap these girls are dumb’ but this- this has taken their stupidity to a whole new level- something I never thought possible until today.
Ahh, their stupidity gets me through the week.
I worry very seriously about these girls.
I love these girls .. even though I don’t know them .. if i ever see them i will know because it will be the girls who act blond :)… waittttt!?! that’d be a lot
I loveeeee this website <3
There has to be a piece of logic behind this that we are missing…right?
Hah. “On speaker.” Nice.
Oh wowwww. XD well maybe they really are smart, just slow…. lol i’m in all advanced classes about to begin early college with a 3.75 GPA and still get made fun of for being so ditzy. :] like seriously, i ran into the same glass door 3 times last week and apologized to it every time. And my hair is light brown!
and you admit this why???
If you can admit it and laugh about it it makes being ditzy all that more forgivable. X)
Hey Charlie – I realize that they are very loud and you can hear them in YOUR space, but unless you’ve actually gone to their apartment and said “Hey, I’m the guy below you, I can hear every word said in your apartment, and I’m capitalizing on your stupidity through social media,” then I think you are invading THEIR privacy.
You tend to soften your criticisms of these women by expressing some fondness for them, but if they truly are oblivious to the fact that you’re listening in (maybe you’re even sitting in your sink RIGHT NOW) and you haven’t even given them the courtesy of a face-to-face conversation/warning (complaints to the landlord count for nothing), then DGAM is nothing else but sneaky, mean-spirited, and self-serving.
As clever as your posts are, hilarity and faux fondness don’t excuse what you’re doing. The fact that so many of your ecstatic readers are women, thrilled to mock and deride other women who are being imposed upon, is deeply disturbing.
You’re right… Charlie should wear ear plugs so that he’s not invading their privacy…
No, what Charlie needs to do is go to these two, tell them that he can hear every single word of their private conversations and that it bothers him (or at least it did). This clear disclosure of the problem may do absolutely nothing to change their behaviour, but until they know the severity of the problem, they can hardly be expected to take measure to prevent the disturbance.
Unless this website generates some serious profit, it’s not capitalizing on anything. there must be capital (read: wealth, valuable assets, economic influence/power) to capitalize… I see no indication that serious assets are being acquired from the creation of this site.
It seems you think it’s not feminist for intelligent, informed women to laugh at and/or deride women who refuse to become informed or act intelligent, especially right now, when information is constantly and easily accessible, because they are too caught up with materialism and following social guidelines that say only men can truly understand politics, current events, health, literature etc. I don’t think it’s very feminist to “pretend I’m dumb cause guys think it’s cute” (see June 7).
The public following and media attention that Charlie gains from this project build his profile as a comedian, which is an asset that he can then (of course) use to generate wealth.
Interesting that you bring up feminism… Are only “intelligent, informed women” entitled to respect and the ability to live their lives as they see fit? One of the core principles of feminism is that all women, including these women (or “girls”, as they are almost universally referred to on this site, which is a demotion in terms of gender status), should have the freedom conduct themselves as they choose. If designer purses and fucking are their ways to express that freedom, then neither you nor anybody else has any right to criticize them for it.
Another strong theme in feminism is that women (and men) should help other women to attain their goals, rather than tearing them down. Women don’t need men to stand up and tell them how stupid they are when there are plenty of women (like you) who are happy to do it. As we all know, being told how stupid we are does wonders for self-esteem and personal development. So if these two aren’t achieving to some standard level out there, you share a little tiny piece of that blame.
For myself, I’m grateful that we live in a society where we (men and women) are allowed to have our own ditzy moments, and where people like you don’t decide who is worthy of respect based on educational attainment.
Not that I didn’t find this hilarious, but shouldn’t men have the freedom to express their selves just as equally as women? Charlie’s form of expressing himself is venting his frusterations, over the internet, to people who most of the time will relate and understand.
Absolutely Hannah, and I think that this approach is a brilliant way to get back at inconsiderate neighbours, if they in fact knew that they were being inconsiderate.
Putting gender aside, how would you feel if you were being internationally lambasted for something that you didn’t even know that you were doing? And is it really fair to bitch about something that you haven’t made a serious or direct attempt to address?
The problem with Angela’s argument is that an invasion of privacy is not a punishable offence. Furhtermore, it has never been stated that he has NOT previously told the girls about the disturbance that they are causing. So you do not have the right to attack this site because you do not know the entire story. You are jumping to conclusions which is not a good thing to base an argument on. If you do not want to be part of this site’s following then i recommend you refrain from logging on. If you want to make baseless accusations, then form your own blog. But do be sure not to “invade” anyone’s privacy. You may be attacked with your own statements. :)
In reply to Elsie, I’ve read Charlie’s entire blog and interviews related to this blog, and to my knowledge, he has never met the GAM face-to-face (has there been any developments there, Charlie?). I think I read somewhere that he DID complain to the landlord, but at present it appears that he hasn’t taken any personal step to resolve the problem (although clearly the anonymous presentation of a Haylie Duff pillow says “you’re disturbing my peace”). So I have about as much information as you do, which is exactly the amount of information that Charlie has given to any of us (i.e., we see these girls through his lens).
As for invasion of privacy not being a punishable offense, it certainly IS (in some forms), but in this case, the argument is not legal, it’s ethical. Try to keep up.
Now that I think about the legal aspects, however, there could be problems in the future for Charlie. He hasn’t released their names, but he has released his own, along with his city of residence and his “job”. If anybody finds out where Charlie lives, then obviously you know where the GAM live and it becomes very easy to connect their names with their private conversation published through this blog without their consent (but clearly linked to them). I could see that getting ugly.
Angela; shut up. Just shut up.
This blog brings joy to my day. I see Charlie as the sad clown. Everyone else is happy, while he suffers :-) Lemonade out of lemons. Keep it up McD.
One has to assume sound is traveling both ways. If I can hear my neighbour’s TV, I have to assume they can hear mine. If they are so stupid that they can’t make that basic step (not even leap) of logic, screw em.
I feel bad for responding to this heated conversation instead of applauding Charlie’s wit while also feeling bad for him, but…
Angela, I’m not gonna tell you that “if you don’t like it like don’t read it!!” because that’s a very weak argument. But where “ethics” are concerned…First of all, it’s impossible to establish a sense of “right” and “wrong” that everyone agrees with. Upon the subject of releasing their names…well, I agree with the others who said that since he didn’t, it’s no big deal.
Anyway, people make fun of other people online all the time. Their bosses, their neighbours, their friends, themselves…even on public TV, this happens. If you’re disgusted by other women–or men–laughing at the girls mentioned in the posts, well…to sound blunt, you just have to deal with it; that’s how the citizens of Earth seem to operate.
Also, since you don’t know all the facts, you can’t immediately call Charlie out on not confronting his neighbours. I’m not saying that he definitely did or didn’t, but for the sake of the argument…say he did complain, and it didn’t work, and now he’s just venting. Even if he didn’t, it’s a moot point. Freedom of speech and all that, and since he’s not technically invading their privacy, ethical standards might not be enough to make him talk to them. I’m not trying to speak for him–sorry if it seems like that.
However, I respect your argument completely, especially how you’ve remained mostly calm and have been arguing intelligently (I’m not one to judge on ‘intelligent arguments’ as you can probably tell, but colour me impressed nonetheless). I actually agree with some of what you’re saying. But since there’s no real reason for Charlie to discontinue posting other than running the risk of making his neighbours’ feelings getting hurt…well, you don’t have me convinced.
I know you probably’ve been getting a lot of replies, so I’m sorry if I sounded rude. I’ll get off my soapbox now.
Angela, if you wanted to go on a date with me, you could’ve just asked.
Believe me, I thought about it ;)
I love you.
Not that I didn’t find this hilarious, but shouldn’t men have the freedom to express their selves just as equally as women? Charlie’s form of expressing himself is venting his frusterations, over the internet, to people who most of the time will relate and understand.
ooops I replied to the wrong person. I’m new with this particular blog.
Will you marry me?
haha, that just made my life : )
This post made me laugh so hard I had to see a podiatrist.
hahahahahahahahah
wow this seems to be a heated debate! ahahaha anyways, thanks charlie for making my day! I am currently in the process of writing an 8 page term paper and this just gave me a great laugh to keep me going. . . thanks your blog is awesome!
Anyone else see the ad for Dr. Tsoi and Dr. Chan? Made me laugh doubley hard because their buisness is right where i live XD
love this blog <3
If you guys have such a problem with this, then why are you reading it..?
Because I want Charlie to man up and tell these women what he’s doing.
(Incidentally, your comment essentially says “If you have a problem with something, why would you do anything about it?” How pro-active of you.)
Why are you lecturing a guy over the internet that you have never met? If he hears every word they say, and he tells them this things could get nasty for him. And there is nothing wrong if he doesn’t release their names. I come on to this site for a laugh, both with Charlies comments and everyone elses. the last thing I want to see is an ethics argument on this site, that I normally get laughs from. everone has ditzy moments, some they even post online. Learn how to laugh a little, please
I’m just saying that for you to even have an opinion of this, you had to have read it first. So why are you reading it if you are just going to be a jerk to everyone. It’s dumb. And you are rude. To everyone.
*claps* i was thinking the same thing…maybe boredom compelled them to write a rant about how us girls laughing at them are mean haha ohhh well ha
oh dear my comment appeared under the wrong person but ehhh i was responding to camille
The most amusing course of action might be to just email the girls a link to this :}
If Charlie is anything like me then his faux fondness isn’t really faux it all. In fact, it’s probably more of a sad, sad attraction.
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Eh, it was only a matter of time until someone kicked off.
At least the rest of us still love you.
seriously, if you have a problem with it you dont have to read it. and to the proactivity comment, there really isnt anything YOU can be doing about it. its charlie’s decision whether he tells them or not, so why exactly are we fighting about it?
There’s no fight here, just a conversation. And there IS something that I can do about it, which is voice my dissent, rather than sitting back with the rest and enjoying the admittedly huge entertainment value of this skeazy venture.
As for Charlie making the decisions here, that’s unfortunately true (if I were living above him, I wouldn’t want him making decisions for ME, like deciding which of my private commentaries to air for the world), but you will notice that he does respond to his follower’s comments. So there is something YOU can do too, Lizzie.
If the girls remain anonymous, then I see absolutely nothing wrong with these hilarious rants.
Team Char-laayyy! :)
Legally wrong, no. Ethically wrong, absolutely.
Angela probably just wants the same amount of attention from Charlie ;)
Sigh… no Marie, I’m trying to get YOUR attention. But if a conversation about ethics, privacy, and how you should treat your neighbors makes you uncomfortable, then by all means use humor to deflect that discomfort.
oh god, just give it a rest.
I wonder how seriously they take surgery. Do they seem like do-it-yourselfers? …cause this could get extremely entertaining, but it would be wise to put 911 on speed dial while listening to that disaster.
i purposely didn’t read yesterday so i’d have the satisfaction of reading two today. difficult but worth it? i think so.
That is one fantastic bottom.
Actually, I know what they said sounds stupid, but when I was having a constant migraine for months, non-stop, it was because I needed my tonsils and adenoids out.
Angela, calm down, like, legit. Charlie can’t go around his apartment wearing ear plugs, the girls are loud, he can’t help but hear them. and he created this blog for amusement purposes. He’s witty, and quite the epic win, and we love him and his blogs about the GAM. If you don’t like Charlies blog, what are you doing on it anyway? gtfo and there’s no problem! :)
You guys need to stop bitching, if you don’t like what Charlie’s doing then don’t come to this site; personally if I were these girls I would feel honored to have a website dedicated to all the shit shit I say.
I just fail to see where this is ethically wrong. If they didn’t want their everyday musings to be made fun of, maybe for once they would think before they spoke. Angela- really?! Fucking really?! Just because you clearly have no sense of humor doesn’t mean you must play the role of the consumate wet blanket. Judging (because that’s what we all do… we judge inherently so don’t bitch if we judge some biddies for having sex with half of the city)from the passion with which you opine on this subject you must have made an ass out of yourself on more blogs than this, so do us all a favor and shove off.
Nah… riling idiots like you is a rewarding hobby. The GAM don’t think before they speak because they are in a private space speaking with a trusted person. You should also consider that Charlie edits these convos to maximize the hilarity. You don’t think before you post because… you’re dumb???
hey, hey. Angela, no need for name-calling missy! :O ;)
Don’t you all get it?? She’s a troll. A motherf*cking troll who is doing so well on pissing people off on here that she (or possibly he cause for all we know it’s a dude) has probably gotten off on this particular argument 3 or 4 times.
ding ding ding! we have a winner johnny! Honestly the fact that anyone responded at all to “Angela” is really quite a shock to me. Troll’s are usually really easy to spot, and though there are quite a few admitted blog newbs, everyone has to know at least one person who like to rag on everyone just because they can. The satisfaction of knowing they got under someone’s skin is just too much to resist, and as such they spawn everywhere. I recommend(to everyone) that if you stumble across another comment along the same line as “Angela’s” to just deny them the orgasm and ignore them.
…Not all trolls just wanna get under peoples’ skin. I mean, some do, but some just want to prove a point that’s different from the majority opinion.
For example, if I answered an online question of “do you like Twilight” and said no and explained why, I’d be called a troll. Bleargh. Didn’t mean to contaminate the site with that word. My b.
Also…replying to trolls=argument=adrenaline=funfunfun.
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